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Post by Sandy on Aug 5, 2008 13:55:01 GMT -5
Zack please post your question/statement here.
Erik + Kirin please reply here with your answers as well.
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Post by pokemaniaczack on Aug 5, 2008 20:20:31 GMT -5
First off I'd like to say congratulations to the both of you. I'm very proud that two people from our original group of four made it all the way to the final 2. I wish I was there with y'all, but honestly who doesn't? Hahaha.
Alright now time to get down to my question. I was thinking, you two are my friends and I was rooting for you two through the entire game, well at final 5, but you get what I mean haha. So I was thinking do I just vote on my personal relationships with you two, or do I vote on your game play? To be honest, I have no idea who I'm voting for so I'm going to make this as fair as possible.
I have two questions.
Question 1: Kirin, I want you to give me reasons why Erik does NOT deserve to win this game. I want you to basically dig up his dirty laundry and tell me why Erik should not be sitting next to you at final 2.
Erik, same question. I want you to give me a few reasons why Kirin does NOT deserve to win isurv1vor. I wanna hear blunt answers and nothing should be sugar-coated.
If one of you answer "I can't think of a reason, he/she deserves to be here as much as I do" you will lose my vote.
Haha you know how much I love controversy. :]
Question 2: I want the both of you to rate the 8 jury members and the person sitting next to you. 1 being the highest and 9 being the lowest. I want you to rate them on their game play and give me at least one reason why you placed them there.
Hahaha, good luck to the both of you, and you have no idea how happy I am that it's between you two.
OH! and Alyssa says hi :]
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Post by kirin on Aug 5, 2008 22:17:45 GMT -5
Zackyyy!=D I feel a lot of the game Erik would play it safe, or go with the flow. I know it's been said a lot that Erik and myself had similar gameplays, but he knew Eddie was gonna take him to final 2, so it wasn't as much of a risk for him to go f3 with Eddie as it was for me. Even at tribe switch, he still had more of a reason to keep Caydie/Britt around then I did because he was closer to Alyssa, who was closer to Caydie/Britt. Because Erik had all these friends everywhere, he was able to just follow them and go with the flow, where I felt I was always on the outs of everyones little pairs, therefore I had to work harder to get here. As for your rankings: 1. Zack- And I'm totally not saying that to kiss up to you because it's your question. If anyone else had asked this, you would still be first. I said from like the merge I thought you were the smartest player and you were gonna win. And I thought that all the way up until you got voted out. You played incredible and you do deserve to be here in the f2. 2. Eddie- Up until Jordan was voted out, it just seemed like he was writing Jordan's coattails, but I've got to know Eddie since then and I've realized he actually was a big part of a lot of things that happened prior to that in the end, even though he didn't come out as a huge power player. This was obviously smart of him since his ally, Jordan, was out before him, and then after Jordan left, he really stepped up and played the game hard and made it all the way to 3rd. That's impressive. 3. Jordan- Why he was pretty much the only person blindsided, was because he was just so good. And I know he's probably sick of hearing that but not only physically (challenges) but mentally he is EXTREMELY smart and was able to make great relationships with people. I mean why do you think Caydie and Britt didn't want to vote him out? He played incredible and that's the only reason he's out. 4. Erik- Erik played an awesome game. He never had a vote against him this whole time, doesn't that say enough? He's very nice and likeable, so he is able to play a quiet, UTR game but still be safe since he has so many friends. He also is amazing at challenges. He definitely deserves his spot in F2. 5. Ginny- Even though she was the first on the jury, I think she played harder then a lot of the people who made it further than her. She was a big part in all the Tribal Councils she was in, and she even almost had me convinced to keep Matt F here. 6. Brittany- I think she's a better player than given credit for. Even though if there had not been the tribe switch and I had not picked her and all, she probably would have been off Norte Chico very soon, it's not all me that saved her, I mean she had obviously prior to that formed a good enough relationship with me for me to pick her, and then she made a deal with Zack to help each other, which did make me want to keep her around, and then her relationships with both sides at merge got her to 5th place. But she is lower on the list, because I feel 4th is better than 5th and she could have easily gotten 4th place. 7. Hooker- Hooker definetly played hard, but I feel he never really got to show it. Had he stayed longer, I think we would have seen more plays from him, but from while he was in the game, it just seemed he was following everyone else. He said he was trying to be the villian, but I didn't see that at all. 8. Caydie- Similar to Britt (Sorry I know yall hate that), I think she floated from side to side after the merge, even though I think it was a great move for her to take out Hooker. But she goes down because I don't really like how she kept threatening to quit because the game wasn't gong her way. 9. Kerri- I really enjoyed talking to her as a person, but she completly floated until f8. Like I don't even remember her asking me to save her when she was the los menos that week. The only time she really freaked out is when Caydie became cheif, she was freaking out during that one immunity, and then at the vote she was like "I know I'm going home but I want Chavin to all stick together" and yeah a bunch of other stuff, when she didn't even have anything to worry about. I don't really think she played as hard as she could have being in the position she was in. Hope this answers your question! Thank ZackkkK! Hey don't forget who gave you Daniele's number haha
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Post by erik on Aug 5, 2008 23:15:07 GMT -5
Erik, same question. I want you to give me a few reasons why Kirin does NOT deserve to win isurv1vor. I wanna hear blunt answers and nothing should be sugar-coated. I just don't think Kirin did as much as I did in terms of strategy. Is she a bigger underdog than me? Yeah I do think she is. But I mean why was she such an underdog and not me? I just don't think she was making the same kinds of connections as I was or else she woulda been queen of the castle knowwhatimsayin? There were times where I really questioned Kirin's judgment, especialllyyy in the Matty Flav vote. She was pretty adamant about wanting to keep Matty Flav because he sweet talked her, but Matty Flav was full of shit. So yeah I guess you could say she didn't have the best read on people? I feel like she did do things off on her own, but she didn't make or come with any huge power moves that really shaped the game ya know. Question 2: I want the both of you to rate the 8 jury members and the person sitting next to you. 1 being the highest and 9 being the lowest. I want you to rate them on their game play and give me at least one reason why you placed them there. 1. Zack - Maybe I'm biased because you were like my go-to guy for the entire game haha, but I think you were great at everything that Survivor is all about. You got the personality to go far, I mean you're friendly and all that. You're smart and great at challenges. You're not afraid to make moves and get things done, and I get the impression there is little to none you wouldn't do in order to succeed in the game. That's a winner's mentality! It was great working for you the entire game and there is no one else I'd want to have been my strategy partner because I firmly believe you were the best there was. 2. Jordan - The more I got to know Jordan, the more I knew he was my biggest threat in this game. He was the brains behind the Norte Chico alliance, and from talking to him I knew he had a great grasp on strategy in the game. He excelled at challenges and he had ties all over the place. I mean, when he got chief for the second time it became very apparent to me that he was making connections everywhere. He was getting Britt and Caydie on his side, he had us on his side, he had EVERYONE. And ya know, that's the game I wanted to play lol. At the Final 7, Caydie and Britt *did not* want to vote Jordan out and this worried me a ton...he had a lot of power and I feared his game a lot, which is why I wanted to make sure he was voted out at F7. He was the only thing I saw standing in my way of F2. 3. Brittany - I think Brittany was hugely underestimated in this game. Yeah, she sucked at challenges =P, but Survivor sure as hell ain't all about challenges. On the social level though, I thought Brittany truly excelled. Even from the early stages of the game, I was hearing things about Brittany being close to Zack, and Brittany being close to Alyssa, and I was like..."Who the hell is this Brittany chick?!". Then I got to finally meet up with her, and we made a deal, and I just felt like Britt had a good idea what she was doing, a good grasp on strategy. She had Caydie by her side, and I always saw her as the leader of their little pack of two. She had the friendly-to-all strategy I think is key in this game. 4. Kirin - Kirin absolutely blew me away from what I was expecting haha. You think she's this little 13-year-old girl and you don't have to watch out for her, but for the most part she knew exactly what she was doing out here and I have a lot of respect for her game play. At many stages of the game, I and others thought she was sorta sneaking around, and I'm sure that she was. She distanced herself from the Chavin alliance enough to survive to this point. I don't think she had as much control as others, which is why she isn't higher. 5. Eddie - Eddie has got to be the nicest guy here haha, and I think that's actually a huge part of his strategy. How can you vote someone like Eddie out? I know it was never an easy thing for me to consider, and it caused me to stick up for him in the F7 when by all means we probably shoulda gotten rid of Eddie since he had the secret bottle (and I knew he had it). But his personality in general sorta caused me to wanna keep him around, and I'm sure that worked for him at other stages in the game. When Eddie said something, he meant it, and that was extremely refreshing and made me wanna work with him. The only problem with Eddie in terms of strategy is that he is too honest....too nice. I hate saying that, cause that's what I like about you Eddie, but in terms of game play it does hinder you. It's a lot easier to win Survivor when you have a mentality more like Zack, of being willing to do or say anything to Survive, and in this game you simply didn't have that. 6. Caydie - I think Caydie had a pretty solid social game. She hid behind Britt a lot yeah, but when she was online she was friendly and likable and that's always important. I didn't know if she had a mind of her own in terms of strategy, but she definitely sorta surprised me and proved that at F7 when she relentlessly voted to evict Zack from the game. She also mentioned being close to Jordan....she made deals with Eddie, so I mean after the chief thing was over I saw a lot more of her gameplay. It was a little late in the game though, and I feel like she wasn't as active as a lot of other players which definitely hurt her. 7. Kerri - I loved Kerri and always thought she was a very smart girl, good head on her shoulders. She rightfully caught on to the fact that she wasn't at the top of the Chavin alliance and I was very surprised when she like...voted Alyssa out of the game despite what the rest of the Chavins wanted. I think she coulda done even better than she did if she just didn't work so much! I mean it really killed her....I barely ever got a chance to talk to Kerri and I'm sure others didn't too. Not being online just hurt her relationships with everyone as a whole, and she became sorta an easy boot when the choices were narrowed down. 8. Ginny - I don't honestly know a lot about Ginny's game play, I know she TALKED to a lot of people (me included) but it was never in depth and never anything about strategy. I think she made a huge mistake sticking with the Hooker/Jordan/Eddie/Matty alliance back on her old tribe and voting out Joey. It put her as a 5th wheel on that alliance (where they were later willing to sell her out in order to solidify the deal with Zack, Kirin, and I), AND it pissed off her old allies Caydie and Brittany, so that she really had no one. She pissed off a lot of the Chavins already, so I mean when merge came along, she didn't stand a chance with that Chief twist. Being stuck on the block with only 2 other people means you need people out there fighting for your survival, and Ginny had no one. 9. Hooker - I put ya last Hooker cause I just never saw any real strategy from you! I know you were hardcore into this game, but I rarely saw you online and I just felt like you were on a completely different planet than the rest of us. You just didn't have a grasp on what was REALLY going on and what needed to be done in this game to survive. You gotta be out there on the playin field, making moves, adapting your strategy, and I just never saw any of that from you. I can't even remember you fighting for your life the round you went home...
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Post by pokemaniaczack on Aug 5, 2008 23:25:56 GMT -5
Thank you all. I deff have an idea now who I want to vote for. But I'm going to hear your answers for the other jurors, and you never know it might change my mind.
Good luck.
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